Orb Effects, Buff Placers, Unique Attack Modifiers

[Dracolich70]

You called him a liar, though he spoke the truth.

[kop_]

It's really funny how one cannot understand sarcasm. Read again my post stating that I don't rule it out, yet him telling me that I called him a liar. Then you might can understand what was the 2nd post. Hf though I doubt it with your current mental state.

[Dracolich70]

It's really funny how one cannot understand sarcasm. Read again my post stating that I don't rule it out, yet him telling me that I called him a liar. Then you might can understand what was the 2nd post. Hf though I doubt it with your current mental state.

I bet you didn't think you offended me neither, though I have merely settled the dispute by providing evidence, and that he spoke the truth - and that you owe him an apology for telling him you think he is a liar - or even just for doubting his claim/tests, which was correct, while yours wasn't. All in a very civil way.

Firstly, you are now lying. He didn't say you called him a liar, but he asked if you did(telling him, which means by disagreeing with his tests). And then you did. I think all three of us know your second paragraph didn't exist at the time. Not that it changes a whole lot - other than making you come on less strong, and suddenly uncertain in stark contrast to your first paragraph, which he reacted on, so you can appear less of a fool after my proof. But let's all pretend from now on that your post is completely unedited.

Secondly, you are still offending him. Either by your written word, or with the use of sarcasm, which will be a mockery upon a mockery. Considering you were on the other side of the fence, there is not much indication that you meant the opposite, when you said "Yes you are a liar. I told that.". Rather not at all. There is nothing that indicates you meaning the opposite with this sentence, but rather that you do think he was.

Thirdly, "Sarcasm is "a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark; a bitter jibe or taunt", and you somehow do not think this is offending someone either? It's even stems from greek meaning "to tear flesh, gnash the teeth, speak bitterly". How can you be bitter about him asking if you think he is a liar, it is rather in the cards that you do? How can you taunt him for asking if you´re telling him he is a liar, considering you are on the other side of the fence and your own(and Staceys) ingame description proved him to be wrong, and all your arguments against it? Irony, sarcasm, satire indicate mockery of something or someone. Somehow you find this rather jovial, and not offending. If you are mocking him for thinking you believe he is a liar, it is still offending. And somehow it makes this stand out "No, I don't. I didn't offend him in any way. Sorry. ". Well, you did, and you owe him an apology. Now several.

Fourthly, he responded to some of your first paragraph by quoting only this part, and came up with the "are you telling me I am a liar" with the quoted part, and you respond to this, which means you disregard anything else you have written.

Fifthly, you now conclude he neglected your second paragraph of uncertainty. Knowing this, you still responded the way you did.

Lastly, you have absolutely no idea how to write sarcastically, if you somehow think that that sentence clearly shows it, despite your uncertainty in your 2nd paragraph. However, your first sentence to me in this post is proper use of sarcasm, but should be used against you, not me. Rather ironic, wouldn't you agree?

There is little reason for you to start mocking me either. I have been rather civil, and settled the disagreement by offering proof and being kind towards all.

Yes, it is funny how someone do not understand sarcasm, when it is appropriate to use it, and most importantly how to write it so it is crystal clear for anyone to know that you are(not that you were in any position to do so). You fail on all three. The sarcastic word here is funny.

[kop_]

I was talking about the 3rd page's posts, I didn't edit any of those, those where who awakened the "hatred". Nonetheless, I am from Greece yes but I see you live in a Dream World like From: "In Support"?! and your whole life being the forums. Considering a doubt about Orbs being an offence, then you haven't lived in the real world.

PS: just because you googled sarcasm and stuff doesn't mean that you know the meaning, specially in greek.

I won't mind henceforth, he had just an opinion, didn't brought up a link or smth like you did stating officially this fact so I had every right to doubt. Live with it.

[Dracolich70]

I was talking about the 3rd page's posts, I didn't edit any of those, those where who awakened the "hatred". Nonetheless, I am from Greece yes but I see you live in a Dream World like From: "In Support"?! and your whole life being the forums. Considering a doubt about Orbs being an offence, then you haven't lived in the real world.

PS: just because you googled sarcasm and stuff doesn't mean that you know the meaning, specially in greek.

I won't mind henceforth, he had just an opinion, didn't brought up a link or smth like you did stating officially this fact so I had every right to doubt. Live with it.

I talk about 3rd page as well, which should be painfully obvious.

I like the fact that you go down a road of trying to insult me further, considering you are the one with all the errors here, doing all the wrong, failing hard, ill behavior, offending people, while I am not(and not the other guy either).

I know sarcasm, as displayed in my post, not being googled but constructed by me. I just googled to give you written proof of clear definitions, since you somehow don't understand it, and you somehow only believe proofs such as that. Could you please show/tell me where I have failed to show understanding of sarcasm, being greek and all. I know Greece is in kind of chaos, but some things are rather the same throughout - such as sarcasm, and the malice of its use. I didn't deserve that. Nor did he.

He didn´t just have an opinion, but had done tests, and showed you logs of his tests. Yet you still didn't believe him. Which means what...? He was lying? The thing you said? The thing you somehow try to convince people you didn't mean, with no indications?

I have pretty much painted for you, what was offending, and it somehow isn't what you come to conclude.

Considering you have applied to be a moderator, somehow the forums are more part of your life, and you wanted it to be.

Being in support is not a dream world, but a rather valiant world that exists. I can understand it is hard for a greek to understand, considering everything going on down there in that decadent country of utter failure - much like you portray so vividly. I would have thought at least the Copenhagen Wolves would have given you some clue as to where I am from, if you seek to know my country. Of course this requires that the person in question knows where Copenhagen is.

PS I see I have received a like for my post, and you somehow have received the opposite. What did yours say? Mine said, "nice elaboration", but then again, it was before I rewrote everything to make it painfully clear for you to understand in all its facets, from a rather short one.

I think you should be happy I am not the kind of guy that tell on people, reporting and all, but just offered you apologized to him - whether it being for doubting him despite his proof, or for saying he was a liar. I don't understand you have gone down this road tbh making it all a bigger deal.

You are right about the hatred part though. I hate the unjust, and fight against it from the lack of love it has received. I like to correct wrong by doing what is right which is fighting the wrong. It is a tough an ungratifying fulltime "job", and creates a lot of enemies(more than friends), but some has to do it, else it will be merely a dream(nightmare) world.

[Crytash]

Is there a poblem?

[Dracolich70]

The poblem has been fixed.

[alife]

There are really some issues to understand Orb effects and other mechanics in D2 since dota2wiki is goddamn useless in that point and playdota tells some different things.
F.e. In D1 u can't buy Quelling Blade on Kunkka (since then he was whiping the entire enemy team with criting the creep) BUT in D2 u are able to buy it on Kunkka and i don't know if it does work or does it work...
Same stuff with Ursa and Sand King... In D1 Quelling Blade was a buff placer called "Demolish" and it didn't stack with passives of those 2 heroes... So now in D2 i am calling every Ursa with Quelling Blade a moron since it didn't work in D1...
I would really enjoy if someone would fix dota2wiki to become useful.

P.S. If u bought Mjolnir and Satanic => u are retard.

[Dracolich70]

Hope this helps:

Kunkka and Quelling blade: Notes: When used with Kunkka's Tidebringer, the bonus damage will only apply to the primary target. Your illusions will also benefit from the bonus damage, the same way as your hero does.

Lists of UAM/Orbs: http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Unique...tack_Modifiers. Quelling blade is not listed as an UAM/Orb neither in-game or in this list.

Think you should just disregard D1 when it comes to a wiki on dota 2.

I agree that it would not be a good idea with your PS, as it ruins much of the intent of Satanic.

PS I am not sure why you say dota2wiki should be fixed to be useful, when I kind of used it to provide you with knowledge you sought, and was uncertain about.

[alife]

Ty for helping with Kunkka... But he still have enough damage to have 100% lasthit =)

1st: What about Ursa/SK and chopper?
2nd: Lets imagine that i came from LoL and i want to build on my NP Desolator for tower pushing and Diffusal against enemy's OK so i want to know which orb would work on attacking heroes. So i go to dota2wiki (since it is official (?) dota2 wikipedia where everything is typed clearly and 100% right) and i find there smth like "They call me Tiny" or "Not my best work"...
And if i go to playdota.com there is a table that clearly says that only Desolator would work on hitting.
That is why i told it is near to useless.