"Oh well, I'm the type of guy who will never settle down
Where pretty carries are well, you know that I'm around
I support 'em and I love 'em 'cause to me they're all the same
I hug 'em and I squeeze 'em they don't even know my name
They call me the wanderer
Yeah, the wanderer
I roam around, around, around"
Calm down and wait
1. As said, Quelling blade is not a UAM, so it applies to them as well. I would believe caustic finale works independingly to quelling, if this is what you are concerned about. 2. New players quickly learn there is a rule of thumb where UAM do not stack, and have very few exceptions. Both Desolator and Diffusal work on attacking heroes, though not simultaneously, when it comes to the UAM effect, you still gain the attributes, though. DotA has a steep learning curve - more steep for some than others. I am a new player, that has never played ARTS/MOBAs before.
I believe dota2wiki took care of your problems/questions. Why I asked is that you on one hand thought it was useless, but reading in it provided you with answers you sought, which somehow means you didn't really use it - at least not enough to find it useless.
Last edited by Dracolich70; 07-27-2012 at 05:27 PM.
Spark of Fire. Intricacies of the Complex. Fluidity of Liquid. Force of one Team.
Anybody can game, but it takes endurance to be an addict.
Yes, I am pretty handy.
Let me provide you with an analogy(because they are very useful for some people to understand basic stuff):nevertheless, there is a post in the dev forum, witch a chart when what applies and some explanations. Look for it, i am sure you will find it.
An old lady wants to cross the street, but needs help. This lady waits for hours for some helpful and competent person to help her. Let's call this person Z. Some people come along. Let's call them N., but N get her and themselves not only stuck mid traffic, but on the wrong street, and N starts bickering amongst themselves, because there is one within N, that is competent, because he speaks from experience, but is in minority, and gets overruled.
Then Z comes along, and helps not only this old lady get across, but also N, and reach their desired destination, and asks the majority in N to apologize to the competent person within N for their lack of trust in him. The spokesperson within N refuse though, because he is small, and feels he loses face by doing so. Z explains the problems with this, and then the spokesperson leaves, having lost face even more, since he still refuses.
On this side of the street, there is this other person. Let's call him X. X has videotaped everything. X wants to be helpful, but is incompetent and fell asleep, while videotaping. X feels useless, because on one hand he wanted to help, but on the other suffers from incompetence and either don't know how to rewind the recorded, and/or suffers from inferiority complexes, and dislike Z for his competence, making him feel small. X decides that he wants to show the majority in N to gain their support, how capable he is, and asks Z if there is a problem to a problem already fixed. A problem that X maybe could have fixed in all those hours before Z arrived. Needless to say, Z answers X that the problem is already fixed.
X feels useless again. Z then helps another person. Let's call him Y. X also dislikes Y, though not as much as Z. Y for reasons unknown wants to criticize the source of Zs information that helped to the first problem, and find it a useless source, as opposed to another source, despite the correctness of it. Z shows this source of information provides answers to questions Y has, that the other source somehow didn't tell him, as the better source. Z then leaves. Y is happy with the information he has received from Z, but wants it to be even more accessible in the future, so he don't need Z to help him, and somehow is still critical towards the source, despite it answered his questions as a veteran. Y feels that it is too complex without Z, and wants it to be even more easy get a clear overview, so he can answer his own questions by obtaining information on his own without Zs help. X hears this.
X knows where Y can find some of this information, which could have been useful to the other problem, in which X was late to provide, but instead of directly telling Y where, he decides to tell Z, who do not need it, and suggests he should go there to find information he do not seek. Either because he is useless, or because he dislikes Z, and thinks that showing Z how useless and incompetent he is, is a better option than showing Y, how helpful he can be, while Z was absent.
Z has this problem that he dislikes incompetence, and gets annoyed with X, whom he called a friend. At first Z decides that telling X that he offered help to the wrong person, is not a good idea to show competence and helpfulness. Z however understand that X wanted to annoy Z, and Z decides to fix Xs main problem, and help him understand how he can feel useful by being so, rather than annoying and useless.
Z wants X to stop being useless, and aim at being what he also wants to be; helpful and helpful towards those who needs it, instead of showing Z how much Zs competence pisses X off. Z is still competent and helpful, and decides to help X with the use of an analogy, so X can be of use, and helpful in the future, instead of useless. Z understands though, that X is an incompetent person, and there is a risk that X will find this analogy/help too complex - because he really do not want to, and understand that there is a big risk that X feels even smaller from receiving this help, and not understanding it, because he don't wants to, because his inferiority complex is still present - and his dislike for Z overrides his eagerness to be of use and less annoying, thus disliking Z even more. Mostly because he feels that the majority in N will appreciate X being annoying by showing his incompetence towards Z, and therefore will like him.
tl;dr: Lady has been helped across, and is happy due to Z. X is useless and helped no one. Y is a whiner, yet thankful. N left the building and lost face. Z is competent and tries to help all.
Last edited by Dracolich70; 07-27-2012 at 08:40 PM.
Spark of Fire. Intricacies of the Complex. Fluidity of Liquid. Force of one Team.
Anybody can game, but it takes endurance to be an addict.