Lets debate about sny. =)

[Drakerip]

If the slow on SnY wouldnt be an orb, this item would be a much more interesting item if you ask me. The orb is its bane, to say the least.

[X10d3Ad]

If the slow on SnY wouldnt be an orb, this item would be a much more interesting item if you ask me. The orb is its bane, to say the least.

Are you from Hon? That orb was removed a long time ago. The item still sucks unfortunately. Maybe improving maim chance and duration will work wonders.

[Gate13]

I usualy make s&y,sometimes manta style but not so often disarm

[ninjafighter50]

Manta cause of illusions and the twice the agility with the same stats gain ^_^

[akujiwa]

Some experiences of HoN..... impossible in Dota but.

In HoN many brainfull people bought 3 times PowerThreads because the AS and HP were stacking...... so 1450gold for 10+ hp and 25+ AS 3PowerThreads = 30+ HP and 75+ AS for 4350 gold

now check the stats of SnY.... for 4400 gold fuck of the slow and extra movement speed. If people in hon do this.........so SnY is too expensive for the stats the small boost of movement and slow effect..... if it would be possible people would do the same in Dota with the 3 powerthreads. It should say all about the item SnY

In HoN? You lost me there.

[Anyport]

Manta is better in every way on any hero.....better stats, manta can juke stuns,silence,dust, and can create confusion.
Shitty maim is shitty.
I used to love SnY when i knew no better. It needs a re-work or it will forever be a troll item u get on cm when ur stomping or u know no better. Sadface SnY.

Also if your worried about slowing people u can just buy a diffusal or a orb of venom for 350g both of which do not rely on RNG

[redpyro]

In HoN? You lost me there.

If power treads fully stacked, would you rather have three power treads (4200 gold) or a SnY (4100)?

[LINKDotA]

S&Y is pretty cool on Jugger, SF, potm and Weaver! Try it out - manta is so expensive now that I think SnY is viable - Do you want to use 1k extra to get illusions and less hp or do you want to get Maim, use less gold get a little more ms+hp? I think it is pretty balanced as it is.

Additionally, only consider it if you dont need manta to dodge a certain spell like silence. There is lots of lineups where you dont need the illus to dodge anything. Those games I always consider buying SnY instead.

Would be pretty cool if they made sange one of the components of Eye of Skadi, instead of one of the Ultimate orbs. That would make SnY even more viable with the recent nerf on mantastyles cost. Gogo icef.!